The comprehensive gazetteer and bibliography of the medieval castles, fortifications and palaces of England, Wales, the Islands.
The listings
Other Info
Print Page 
Next Record 
Previous Record 
Back to list 

Stonegarthside Hall

Also known as, or recorded in historical documents as;
Ro foresters; Standgarthsyde; Stangartick; Stangartikside

In the civil parish of Nicholforest.
In the historic county of Cumberland.
Modern Authority of Cumbria.
1974 county of Cumbria.
Medieval County of Cumberland.

OS Map Grid Reference: NY48028186
Latitude 55.12838° Longitude -2.81649°

Stonegarthside Hall has been described as a probable Pele Tower.

There are uncertain remains.

This is a Grade 2* listed building protected by law*.


Shown as tower of 'Ro forsters' on 1590 map and as a house 'Stonegarthside' on 1607 platt. Current house on site built 1684 by John Forster (a descendent of Robert Forster) and is thickwalled but does not seem to incorporate earlier work. (Perriam and Robinson)

House, formerly a tower house, which was probably built in the late C13 with wings dated 1682. The house is made from large mixed blocks of calciferous and gray sandstone on projecting plinth stones with shaped quoins. Medieval moulded stonework was built into C17 extensions, thought to be from the original entrance to the building. There are crow stepped gables, ashlar chimney stacks and a graduated Welsh slate roof. It is three storeys high and has numous bays, in the Scottish Baronial style. (PastScape)

Remains and foundations of an apparently defensive wall with a ditch outside it suggest that a place of strength existed here considerably before the 14th/15th c. A moat existed on the south-west where the site was not protected as on the other three sides, by marsh land. The external walls of the existing building are 4' thick, there are dressed stones from an older building built into its walls, and a dungeon and a massive staircase still exist (Curwen 1928)
The hall is double-L shape in plan and of rough masonry measuring 23 by 15 metres with an open courtyard on the southeast. Externally it is a fine example of its period and is consistent with Pevsner's date. A recent plan held by the owner shows no evidence of an earlier uncorporated structure. The supposed dungeon appears to be a contemporary cellar, and the considerable amount of earlier stonework built into the 17th century fabric, may have come from another source (See NY 48 SE5). No trace of an external ditch or moat was found in the grounds (F1 JRL 20-AUG-79). (PastScape)

The standing house is a fine house of 1682 which Perriam and Robinson state does not seem to contain any earlier structure. Curwen thought the original C13 building was a wooden hall within a moat, although that seems unlikely as the house is on quite a slope.
It is difficult to really known what the symbols on the 1590 map actually meant and the assumption they were all 'towers' is incorrect. However this house is shown as a tower on Saxton's map of 1579.
Needs to be discriminated from Stonehaugh at NY463804 which was also called Stonegarthside on the early maps.
Formerly in the ownership of The Vivat Trust and available as a holiday let. However the Trust went into liquidation in 2015. Gatehouse is unaware of the current status of the site but there is no reason to believe it to be at risk.
Links to archaeological and architectural databases, mapping and other online resources

Data >
PastScape   County HER       Listing   I. O. E.
Maps >
Streetmap   NLS maps   Where's the path   Old-Maps      
Data/Maps > 
Magic   V. O. B.   Geology   LiDAR   Open Domesday  
Air Photos > 
Bing Maps   Google Maps   Getmapping   ZoomEarth      
Photos >
CastleFacts   Geograph   Flickr   Panoramio      

Sources of information, references and further reading
Most of the sites or buildings recorded in this web site are NOT open to the public and permission to visit a site must always be sought from the landowner or tenant.
It is an offence to disturb a Scheduled Monument without consent. It is a destruction of everyone's heritage to remove archaeological evidence from ANY site without proper recording and reporting.
Don't use metal detectors on historic sites without authorisation.
The information on this web page may be derived from information compiled by and/or copyright of Historic England, County Historic Environment Records and other individuals and organisations. It may also contain information licensed under the Open Government Licence. All the sources given should be consulted to identify the original copyright holder and permission obtained from them before use of the information on this site for commercial purposes.
The author and compiler of Gatehouse does not receive any income from the site and funds it himself. The information within this site is provided freely for educational purposes only.
The bibliography owes much to various bibliographies produced by John Kenyon for the Council for British Archaeology, the Castle Studies Group and others.
Suggestions for finding online and/or hard copies of bibliographical sources can be seen at this link.
Minor archaeological investigations, such as watching brief reports, and some other 'grey' literature is most likely to be held by H.E.R.s but is often poorly referenced and is unlikely to be recorded here, or elsewhere, but some suggestions can be found here.
The possible site or monument is represented on maps as a point location. This is a guide only. It should be noted that OS grid references defines an area, not a point location. In practice this means the actual center of the site or monument may often, but not always, be to the North East of the point shown. Locations derived from OS grid references and from latitude longitiude may differ by a small distance.
Further information on mapping and location can be seen at this link.
Please help to make this as useful a resource as possible by contacting Gatehouse if you see errors, can add information or have suggestions for improvements in functality and design.
Help is acknowledged.
*The listed building may not be the actual medieval building, but a building on the site of, or incorporating fragments of, the described site.
This record last updated 26/07/2017 09:21:31

Home | Books | Links | Fortifications and Castles | Other Information | Help | Downloads | Author Information | Contact