GATEHOUSE
The comprehensive gazetteer and bibliography of the medieval castles, fortifications and palaces of England, Wales, the Islands.
 
 
Home
The listings
Other Info
Books
Links
Downloads
Contact
 
Aglionby Platt Home
 
Print Page 
 
Next Record 
Previous Record 
Back to list 

The Gatehouse website record of

Ye Bailie (The Bailie)

a location shown on a 1590 map of the West Marches of Scotland (The Aglionby Platt)

Also known as, or recorded in historical documents as; Ye Baile; Bailey; balyhead

In the civil parish of Bewcastle.
In the historic county of Cumberland, England.
Modern Authority of Cumbria, England.
1974 county of Cumbria, England.
Medieval County of Cumberland.

OS Map Grid Reference: NY520777
Latitude 55.09140° Longitude -2.75356°

The given map reference is suggested as the probable location of Ye Bailie shown on the Aglionby Platt.

There are no visible remains.

The likely form(s) of this building in 1590 are;

  • Pele House ('bastle').

A section of the 1590 Aglionby Platt. Image reproduced by permission of the National Library of Scotland
Reproduced by permission of the National Library of Scotland
Description

A map in the British Museum, dated December 1590, has marked 'Ye Bailie' with a tower symbol. It is marked on the map immediately south of the confluence of Black Leuen and White Leuen (the Black and White Lyne) but the related positions of other towers, particularly Troughead (NY47NE6) and Comcrook (NY57SW2) suggest that the name White Leuen has been applied to that part of the Black Lyne eastwards of its confluence with Bailey Water. If this was so the map would indicate a position for this tower in the vicinity of Low Todholes (NY 519777)
There are no remains or any local knowledge of a tower in the area of Low Todholes (Field Investigators Comments–F1 BHP 02-APR-7).
A divination survey was undertaken in 1982 to the rear of Snouts Farm at NY518768. Further site identification required (Perriam and Robinson). (PastScape 12953)

Site of bastle at Nook. Maughan, writing in 1862, states that 'at a place called the Nook, near Roantrees is a field which is generally known by the name of Cairns... at this place there was formerly an old building with very thick walls and portholes like those in the tower at Crews.' This suggests this was a bastle site. Cairns was called Charters in C18. There are possible traces at Charter Trees. (PastScape 1389217 – ref. Perriam and Robinson)

Comments

Several site proposed, Rear of Snouts Farm at NY518768. Peelsteads field or the Nook at NY520777. A reading of the crude map and consideration of stopping raiders returning with stolen cattle suggests the location should be around NY516777 where two fords (The Breakings) would be controlled. However, such house were mainly sited for other reasons (agricultural and tenurial) so further investigation certainly required. On the bases of there being some evidence of a strong house at The Nook I've placed Ye Bailie at that location.
Perriam and Robinson do not do themselves any credit by including a 'plan' based on the hokum of a divining survey.
Quite what is meant by the symbols on the Aglionby Platt is uncertain but a defensive building of some sort is probable. This could include three storey chamber blocks attached to halls (pele towers) or solidly built farmhouses of two storeys (bastles).
The resident householder c. 1590.

1561 - Willie Greymes ("The names of the Greymes of Eske and Leven within the Countie of Cumberland gyven in by Richard Greyme of Netherbye to the Lorde Dacre, Warden of the West Marche of England" P.R.O. SP 59/9 ff. 197-203 (CSP For, 1561-62, no. 442), dated 23 August i 56 r)
1602 - Leonard Grame (Scrope List 1602 - Richard Bell's manuscript History of the Borders, ff. 211-215)
- see Spence, R.T., 1980, 'The Graham Clans and Lands on the eve of the Jacobean Pacification' Transactions of the Cumberland and Westmorland Antiquarian and Archaeological Society Vol. 80 p. 92 online copy
James Rutledge (see Harrison, J.V., 1967, 'Five Bewcastle wills' Transactions of the Cumberland and Westmorland Antiquarian and Archaeological Society Vol. 67 p. 108-9 online copy)
Links to archaeological and architectural databases, mapping and other online resources

Data >
PastScape   County HER        
Maps >
Streetmap   NLS maps   Where's the path   Geology  
Air Photos > 
Bing Maps   Google Maps   Getmapping   Flashearth  
Photos >
Geograph   Flickr   Panoramio      

Sources of information, references and further reading
Most of the sites or buildings recorded in this web site are NOT open to the public and permission to visit a site must always be sought from the landowner or tenant.
It is an offence to disturb a Scheduled Monument without consent. It is a destruction of everyone's heritage to remove archaeological evidence from ANY site without proper recording and reporting.
Don't use metal detectors on historic sites without authorisation.
The information on this web page may be derived from information compiled by and/or copyright of Historic England, RCAHMS (or its successor Historic Environment Scotland), County Historic Environment Records and other individuals and organisations. All the sources given should be consulted to identify the original copyright holder and permission obtained from them before use of the information on this site for commercial purposes.
The author and compiler of Gatehouse does not receive any income from the site and funds it himself. The information within this site is provided freely for educational purposes only.
The bibliography owes much to various bibliographies produced by John Kenyon for the Council for British Archaeology, the Castle Studies Group and others.
Suggestions for finding online and/or hard copies of bibliographical sources can be seen at this link.
Minor archaeological investigations, such as watching brief reports, and some other 'grey' literature is most likely to be held by H.E.R.s but is often poorly referenced and is unlikely to be recorded here, or elsewhere, but some suggestions can be found here.
The possible site or monument is represented on maps as a point location. This is a guide only. It should be noted that OS grid references defines an area, not a point location. In practice this means the actual center of the site or monument may often, but not always, be to the North East of the point shown. Locations derived from OS grid references and from latitude longitiude may differ by a small distance.
Further information on mapping and location can be seen at this link.
Please help to make this as useful a resource as possible by contacting Gatehouse if you see errors, can add information or have suggestions for improvements in functality and design.
Help is acknowledged.
This record created on 09/05/2015 07:56:04; This record last updated on 17/09/2015 11:36:45

Home | Books | Links | Fortifications and Castles | Other Information | Help | Downloads | Author Information | Contact
¤¤¤¤¤